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#1 irekm

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Napisano 15 maj 2014 - 17:32

W ostatni poniedzialek Mr Hayek nabyl zegarek za kwote 680.000 frankow szwajcarskich  nalezacy kiedys do ksiecia Potockiego , zegarek pochodzi z 1789r

 

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It is Abraham-Louis Breguet's very first four-minute tourbillon and his third tourbillon watch ever made. Well-known as the no°1176, this pocket chronometer displays a fan-shaped power reserve sector calibrated for 35 hours, a small hour dial and additional small rings for the two subsidiary seconds. 


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#2 LMed

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Napisano 15 maj 2014 - 17:50

Mucha nie siada .


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Napisano 15 maj 2014 - 17:57

Świetny.


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Napisano 15 maj 2014 - 18:02

Uwielbiam takie cacka... Nie mogę oderwać wzroku.


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#5 Enkil

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Napisano 15 maj 2014 - 18:07

Zegarek jest przepiękny, nie wiedziałem, że w tych latach tworzono takie cuda, i to jeszcze z komplikacją tourbillon?
Naprawdę ładny.
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Napisano 15 maj 2014 - 19:20

Zegarek z opłatami Christies został sprzedany za 821 tys CHF:

 

http://www.christies...ad-72dccf8c9896

 

Skąd informacja, że zegarek został nabyty przez Hayek'a? 

 

Wcześniej właściciel próbował sprzedać ten egzemplarz w Antiquorum, jednak bezskutecznie.

 

Pozdrawiam


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Napisano 15 maj 2014 - 19:22

Opis tego egzemplarza z Antiquorum:

 

"A Monsieur le Comte Potocki - The First Breguet Four-Minute Tourbillon" Breguet, No. 1176, sold on February 12, 1809, through Monsieur Moreau in St. Petersburg to Comte Potocki, for 4600 Francs. Exceptional and highly important, large, early, 18K gold "montre garde-temps à tourbillon" pocket chronometer with four-minute tourbillon regulator, echappement naturel, double subsidiary seconds, power reserve indication and regulator dial, the first four-minute tourbillon to be made by Breguet and one of the very earliest known watches with the very high oscillation rate for the period of 21,600 per hour.

C. Four-body, "bassine", No. 1282, by Amy Gros, the bezel and border engraved with foliate scrolls, the back engraved with the arms of Comte Potocki, bolt on the front bezel for stopping the tourbillon carriage. Hinged gold cuvette. D. Gold, by Tavernier, engine-turned, oval reserve inscribed "Regulateur a Tourbillon", small hour dial with radial Roman numerals on a plain reserve, outer dot minute indexes on a plain reserve, Arabic 15-minute numerals on outset reserves, two subsidiary seconds dials, power reserve sector calibrated for 35 hours. Blued steel Breguet hands. M. 24''', gilt brass, small semi-elliptical backplate, conical pillars secured by pins, reverse fusee with maintaining power, jeweled wheel train, echappement naturel of unusual design with 12-toothed escape wheel and 3-toothed escape wheel, the lever with single banking spring allowing even rest on both escape wheels, three-arm bimetallic compensation balance with an oscillation rate of 21,600 per hour, peripheral timing adjustment screws, blued steel balance spring with terminal curve, the whole mounted in a two-arm cage driven from the second wheel pinion and revolving once every four minutes. Dial and movement signed, case punched with Gros's mark. Diam. 65 mm. Property of a Swiss Gentleman

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Reinhard Meis, "Le Tourbillon", Les Editions de L'Amateur, 1990, p. 92. George Daniels, "The Art of Breguet", 1975, p. 212 & 213 for a similar example, No. 2396. Antiquorum, "The Art of Breguet", April 14, 1991, Lot 31. It is generally accepted that Breguet invented the tourbillon on his return from Switzerland in 1795, although the patent was not granted until 1801. The letter below (in literal translation) was sent by Breguet on 24 Floreal an 9 (April 14, 1801) to the minister of the interior, to present his invention:
"Citizen Minister, I have the honor to present to you a memo detailing a new invention, applicable to instruments for measuring time, that I have named Regulateur a tourbillon", and I request a patent for the construction of these regulators for a period of ten years. I have succeeded, by this invention, in removing through compensation the errors due to positional differences in the centers of gravity, and by the movement of the regulator, in distributing equally the friction over all parts of the pivots of the said regulator and the holes in which they turn, in such a way that the lubrication of the contact points will always be equal even as the oil thickens, and in removing many other errors that affect , to a greater or lesser extent the accuracy of the movement, in a manner that is totally beyond the present knowledge of our art, even with an infinite period of trial and error. It is after due consideration of all these advantages, with the ability to perfect the means of fabrication and the considerable expenses I have incurred in arriving at such a point, that I have decided to apply for a patent to fix the date of my invention and to compensate myself for the expenses I have incurred. Respectfully yours, Breguet." The principle of his invention was to eliminate positional errors in a timekeeper. It consisted of mounting the escapement on a platform which revolved in a given period, most usually one, but occasionally four or six minutes. The errors were therefore regularly reproduced and cancelled each other out. 

Breguet No. 1176 The first timekeeper fitted with the newly invented tourbillon was numbered 282 and signed on a silver plaque fitted to the tourbillon carriage: Exte. en Messd. An 8 (June/July 1800), with the backplate signed: Ier regulateur a tourbillon. It is thought that No. 282 was never intended to leave the workshops and indeed it was not sold until 1832. Officially, Breguet's second tourbillon, No.169, was that given by Breguet to John Roger Arnold in memory of Breguet's friendship with his father. This watch was completed in 1808 and presented in 1809, the same year as the present tourbillon watch was sold. The present watch, No. 1176, is historically highly significant in that it has the echappement naturel, but not in its final form, Breguet No. 282 & No.169 have Arnold detent and Peto cross-detent escapements respectively and therefore Breguet's echappement naturel was certainly in the course of construction at the same time as the second Breguet tourbillon with Peto's cross-detent and it is quite likely that it was being experimented with even before that, perhaps even as early as 1798. Probably, this watch was in reality Breguet's actual second-ever tourbillon and the first to be fitted with the echappement naturel, but No 169 was released from the workshops first, and as such is recorded in the archives as being the second tourbillon. It is recorded in the archives that the dial for No. 1176 was delivered by Tavernier on November 17, 1806 and that on January 28, 1807 Michaud received the order to engrave the plate. This proves that the movement must have been completed and no longer in its experimental stage by November 1806. The present watch, No. 1176, was without doubt the first of Breguet's watches ever to be made with a fourminute tourbillon and subsequently it is one of the most historically important watches in existence, the progenitor of all other four-minute tourbillon watches . It is exciting to think that Breguet would have personally worked on this watch, along with his most important watchmaker Michel Weber. Close examination of the construction of Breguet No. 1176 has revealed that it is indeed of an experimental nature and has some unique variations in construction to those four minute tourbillons of a later date. Firstly, the upper plate has three separate cocks instead of being in one piece - this was to allow corrections and modifications to be carried out without having to disassemble the whole movement. Secondly, examination of the echappement naturel shows some interesting features not previously noted with this escapement: the double teeth are curved in a similar way to those in Arnold escape wheels, the escape wheel actually consists of two wheels so that their relation to each other can be adjusted. The lever itself does not have the two springs usually seen in this escapement that provide the banking protection, instead there is only one spring. This allows an even rest on both escape wheels. 

High Frequency of Oscillation Breguet No. 1176 illustrates how highly advanced Breguet was for his time because this watch, in common with No. 169, has the very high rate of 21,600 vibrations per hour, at a time when a rate of between 14,000 and 18,000 was usual. Breguet only used this high rate of vibration in his tourbillons until about 1815 when he implemented tourbillons using the lever escapement, it was not until the 20th Century that such a high vibration rate was used again in the movements of wristwatches. The purpose of increasing the frequency of a watch is that combined with a small diameter balance, a watch would show an improvement in rate because the balance would be less affected by movement of the watch during wear. If for example the watch is rotated in the direction of the motion of the balance, the relative motion of the balance will be slowed. The faster the balance vibrates, the less likelihood there is of the watch being moved at the same speed and consequently the rate is more stable. A stronger mainspring is required to maintain a higher number of vibrations, but Breguet got round this problem by slowing the carriages of his tourbillons from one-minute to four-minutes. The acceleration is proportionately reduced and the surplus power available is used to maintain the increased vibrations. 

The known examples of Breguets four-minute tourbillon are: No. 1176 – the present watch and earliest example, sold to Comte Potocki in 1809. Echappement naturel.No. 1188 – sold in 1808. Echappement naturel. In the Breguet Museum in Paris, but now with a later enamel dial. No. 1297 – sold in 1808. Robin escapement. No. 1918 –sold to Comte in 1822. Echappement naturel. No. 2396 – sold in 1815. Echappement à force constante. No. 2483 – date of sale unrecorded. Echappement naturel. No. 2555 – sold in 1823. Peto cross-detent. Professor T. Engel was able to study the famous "Marie Antoinette" watch, No. 160, in detail while in Jerusalem. While his findings would fill an entire chapter, suffice it to say that 
Professor Engel considers that the Tourbillon No. 1/1176, with its large diameter (65 mm.), its heavyness, and the quality of execution of its movement, is very much like the "Marie Antoinette", Breguet's most important creation. 

Count Stanislas Kostka Potocki (1755 -1821) 

APolish nobleman, politician, writer, collector, and patron of the arts, he was one of the most emblematic figures of the Age of Enlightenment in his country. A member of an old noble Polish family, Stanislas was the son of Eustachy Potocki, General and starost of Lwow, and Anna Katska. He was the brother of writer and politician Ignacy Potocki. On June 2, 1776, he married Princess Aleksandra Lubomirska, the daughter of a Grand Marshall of the Crown, Stanisas Lubomirski. Potocki was educated at the Warsaw Collegium Nobilium and later studied literature and the arts in Wilanow. He was Podstoli (a type of deputy) to the Crown from 1781 to 1784. In 1792, he became a General of the Army, taking part in the Russo-Polish war of 1792, for the defense of the constitution of May 3, 1791. He was a deputy of Lublin and a major figure in the patriotic party during the four-year Sejm. Count Potocki held the knighthood of the White Eagle and the Saint Stanislas Merits and was Great Master of the Polish Freemasons. He was also Nuncio of the Diet in 1776, 1786 and 1788. From 1792 to 1797, he lived abroad, having left his country after its first dismemberment. He was arrested in Carlsbad after the uprising of Kosciuszko, then lived in captivity for eight months in Josephstadt. When the Great Duchy of Warsaw was created he became the Senator Palatine, Head of the Council of State and of the Council of Ministers. Napoleon made him Minister of Culture and Education, and he retained these posts even after the annexation of the Polish Kingdom by Russia in 1815. In 1800, Potocki became one of the co-founders of the Society of Friends of Science (TPN: Towarzystwo Przyjaciól Nauk) in the Warsaw duchy. In 1807, he was made a member of the Government Commission and president of the House of Education (Izba Edukacyjna). Count Stanislas Potocki by Jacques-Louis David In 1809, he became the president of the State Council (Rada Stanu) and the Council of Ministers (Rada Ministrów). In 1810, he became the director of the National Association for Education (Edukacji Narodowej). Potocki founded the University of Warsaw in 1816 and was elected President of the Senate in 1818, a post which he held until 1820. An art lover and avid collector, he devoted his fortune to promoting literature, sciences and arts, and built up a beautiful collection of paintings, Etruscan vases and engravings in his home, Wilanow Palace. Archaology was another of his major interests; in 1779 and again in 1785-1786, Potocki organized archeological digs in Italy. An author and scholar, Potocki wrote numerous works, among them "Of Eloquence and Style" in four volumes, published in Warsaw in 1815, and "Journey to Ciemnogrod", a satirical novel in four volumes. He translated into Polish the works of the renowned German archaeologist Johann Joachim Winckelmann, concerning the art of antiquity. The equestrian portrait of him, painted by Jacques-Louis David whom Potocki met while the artist was at the Academy in Rome, is considered to be one of David’s masterpieces. This portrait, inspired by equestrian portraits by Van Dyck, was one of only three paintings David took along with him when he left Rome to return to Paris. It is now on view in Wilanow, Potocki’s family home which during his life lay on the outskirts of the city, and is now located within Warsaw. Wilanow Palace, renowned for its beauty, was known as “the Polish Versailles”. In 1805, in a visionary move, Potocki opened his art collection and a portion of the castle to the public, thus making Wilanow one of Poland's earliest museums. Count Stanislas Polocki died on September 14, 1821 and was buried at Wilanow.
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Napisano 15 maj 2014 - 19:30

Piękny zegarek :)


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Napisano 15 maj 2014 - 19:44

No , trudno uwierzyc ze zostal zaprojektowany w koncu XVIII W .

Dzieki Igor za uzupelnienie wiadomosci , Hayek oprocz tego egsemplarza zakuoilnjeszcze jeden historyczny model za okolo 70.000 frankow

Szkoda ze polskie muzea nie byly zainteresowane takim przedmiotem .

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Napisano 15 maj 2014 - 20:06

Bedzie mu pasowal w kolekcji do tego, ktory byl zrobiony dla marii Antoniny ;)


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#11 Jakub Mróz

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Napisano 16 maj 2014 - 05:35

Masakra! Piękny początek nowego dnia :)(333 post - można by rzec liczba magiczna i to w takim temacie :P)

 

Piękny, a do tego nie tak bardzo przeładowany jak niektóre skomplikowane Breguety! 

 

Ten, Breguet Churchill'a i trzy Patki - tzw. "Death of Poniatowski", Kościuszki i Paderewskiego - to są moje nieosiągalne marzenia - które szwajcarskie muzeum odsprzedałoby tak rzadki zegarek? :D

 

Miło, że pozostał na nim trwały ślad polskiego "rodowodu" w postaci Herbu Rodziny Potockich - Pilawy :)

 

Na deser - zegarek posiada, mimo tak odległego wieku Tourbillon i na 100% wyszedł spod dłoni mistrza - samego Abrahama Louisa Breguet'a! Wynalazcy tej komplikacji!

 

Czy wyobrażacie sobie wspanialszy egzemplarz w kolekcji Klubu?

Z drugiej strony, Kościuszko i Paderewski są najwspanialszymi z powstańców, obrońców polskiej suwerenności, znanymi na całym świecie, nawet w mocno niedokształconych historycznie USA.

Nie umniejszając Księciu Potockiemu(był wojskowym w stopniu generał major artylerii koronnej!), który również zdziałał wiele dla Polski, Polaków a także prostych ludzi, otwierając ich na kulturę i sztukę najwyższej próby!

 

EDIT: Wynik małego reserach'u: http://www.sklep-win...9,wldka-potocki

Na cześć jednego z pierwszych polskich Miłośników Zegarów i Zegarków, a jednocześnie obdarzonego tak wysmakowanym gustem dzieł zegarmistrzowskich wielkiego A.L.Breguet'a, powinniśmy wypić toast w/w trunkiem na jakimś spotkaniu klubowym! ;)


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#12 Master Yoda

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Napisano 16 maj 2014 - 22:07

Piękny zegarek i kawał Polskiej ,zagmatwanej historii....księcia Potockiego,urodzonego nie gdzie indziej a w Lublinie :)

 

Szkoda tylko że nie wrócil do kraju...ale bez prywatnego sponsora to muzea raczej mogą nowe kapcie dla zwiedzających kupić <_<


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#13 adambris

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Napisano 18 maj 2014 - 17:07

Naprawde niezłe cacko . Fakt powinien się znajdować w polskim muzeum.
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#14 Jakub Mróz

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Napisano 20 maj 2014 - 14:18

Aż dziw, że na forum miłośników zegarmistrzostwa, jest o wiele większe zainteresowanie w tematach "Pogadajmy o telefonach" czy "żarty żartami..." niż w temacie "Breguet księcia Potockiego". Przecież to przy okazji kawał pięknej polskiej historii, wybitnego Polaka, który starał się m.in. otworzyć ludzi ze wszystkich warstw społecznych na sztukę, a szczególnie tą tak bliską naszym forumowiczom, jak zegarmistrzostwo...


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Napisano 20 maj 2014 - 14:32

Dla ciekawostki w temacie związanym z Potockimi - coś z mojej prywatnej kolekcji - klamra od pasa liberyjnego z herbem i dewizą Potockich.

Załączone miniatury

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Napisano 20 maj 2014 - 14:58

Tak jak pisałem, tym bardziej ucieszył mnie ten news, gdy zobaczyłem Pilawę na deklu osławionego Breguet'a z aukcji :)


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#17 chronofil

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Napisano 23 maj 2014 - 10:28

Kawał historii...

A zegarek jest po prostu doskonale piękny, nie mówiąc o rozwiązaniach technicznych. Cudna rzecz...

Dzięki, Irek, za załozenie tematu :)


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Napisano 24 maj 2014 - 18:35

tourbillon - jest a tarcza nie podziurawiona  :wub: 

Krótko, piękna rzecz.


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Napisano 24 maj 2014 - 22:47

tourbillon - jest a tarcza nie podziurawiona  :wub: 

 

 

Wtedy tourbillon miał spełniać funkcję techniczną a nie głównie ozdobną, jak dzisiaj, więc nie musiał być widoczny


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Napisano 24 maj 2014 - 23:13

Bezapelacyjnie piękna kieszonka.

 

Wtedy tourbillon miał spełniać funkcję techniczną a nie głównie ozdobną, jak dzisiaj, więc nie musiał być widoczny

 

Tourbillon bez dziury w cyferblacie to także domena zegarków naręcznych.

Jednną z najczystszych form tourbillonu w naręcznym zegarku jest Omega na kalibrze 30l. Tylko 12 szt zostało wyprodukowanych w 1947 roku. Jest to również jeden z pierwszych jak nie pierwszy wogóle naręczny tourbillon. Niezwykłością jest obrót co 7,5 minuty! (zazwyczaj to tylko 60 sekund). 

 

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